Please tag HEVC with hvc1 not hev1, can't play on any apple devices

Posted on: Nov 10, 2018 2:36 AM

OK i've been bashing my head at this long enough now where I don't think it's user error. I haven't been able to successfully play any HEVC from MediaConvert to date. I've tried as many sanity tests as possible. I think some of you guys might need to buy an apple device for the office..
Here are some HEVC files that do play nativelyhttps://x265.com/hevc-video-files/
1.10. You SHOULD use video formats in which the parameter sets are stored in the sample descriptions, rather than the samples. (i.e., Use ‘avc1’, ‘hvc1’, or ‘dvh1’ rather than ‘avc3’, ‘hev1’, or ‘dvhe’.)
More resources:
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/49128084/playing-h-265-video-file-using-avplayer/49134221#49134221
https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/299733/macos-high-sierra-unable-to-natively-play-videos-encoded-with-handbrakes-h-265
Here's the media info for a mediaconvert hevc encoding, it doesn't play on apple.
General
Complete name : 75132A0D-FDC2-4456-98C7-2CFB402F77D3_360p.mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media
Codec ID : isom (isom)
File size : 2.43 MiB
Duration : 59 s 993 ms
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 340 kb/s
Encoded date : UTC 2018-11-10 09:48:09
Tagged date : UTC 2018-11-10 09:48:09
Video
ID : 1
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile : Main@L5@High
Codec ID : hev1
Codec ID/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Duration : 59 s 993 ms
Bit rate : 235 kb/s
Width : 360 pixels
Height : 640 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 0.562
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.034
Stream size : 1.68 MiB (69%)
Encoded date : UTC 2018-11-10 09:48:09
Tagged date : UTC 2018-11-10 09:48:09
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709
Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : mp4a-40-2
Duration : 59 s 989 ms
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 96.0 kb/s
Maximum bit rate : 100 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 703 KiB (28%)
Encoded date : UTC 2018-11-10 09:48:09
Tagged date : UTC 2018-11-10 09:48:09
Here is a video that does play:
General
Complete name : Tears_400_x265.mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media
Codec ID : iso4 (iso4/hvc1)
File size : 689 KiB
Duration : 13 s 958 ms
Overall bit rate : 405 kb/s
Encoded date : UTC 2014-08-25 18:10:46
Tagged date : UTC 2014-08-25 18:10:46
Video
ID : 1
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile : Main@L4@Main
Codec ID : hvc1
Codec ID/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Duration : 13 s 958 ms
Bit rate : 402 kb/s
Maximum bit rate : 801 kb/s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 800 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 24.000 FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.011
Stream size : 685 KiB (99%)
Title : hevc:fps=24@GPAC0.5.1-DEV-rev4807
Writing library : x265 1.3+20-6e6756f94b27:https://forums.aws.amazon.com/https://forums.aws.amazon.com/https://forums.aws.amazon.com/
Encoding settings : wpp / ctu=64 / tu-intra-depth=3 / tu-inter-depth=3 / me=3 / subme=4 / merange=57 / rect / amp / max-merge=4 / no-early-skip / no-fast-cbf / rdpenalty=0 / no-tskip / no-tskip-fast / strong-intra-smoothing / no-lossless / no-cu-lossless / no-constrained-intra / no-fast-intra / open-gop / interlace=0 / keyint=250 / min-keyint=24 / scenecut=40 / rc-lookahead=40 / bframes=8 / bframe-bias=0 / b-adapt=2 / ref=5 / weightp / no-weightb / aq-mode=2 / aq-strength=1.00 / cbqpoffs=0 / crqpoffs=0 / rd=6 / psy-rd=0.60 / psy-rdoq=1.00 / signhide / lft / sao / sao-lcu-bounds=0 / sao-lcu-opt=1 / b-pyramid / cutree / rc=2 / pass / bitrate=400 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ipratio=1.40 / pbratio=1.30
Encoded date : UTC 2014-08-25 18:10:46
Tagged date : UTC 2014-08-25 18:10:46
Edited by: rromanchuk5 on Nov 10, 2018 11:39 AM

Replies: 5 | Pages: 1 - Last Post: Nov 12, 2018 1:04 AM by: rromanchuk5

Re: Please tag HEVC with hvc1 not hev1, can't play on any apple devices

Posted on: Nov 11, 2018 10:47 AM

Hi there,
We only expose changing the Codec ID, in DASH ISO and CMAF Output groups. We do not expose this parameter for File Output groups where the video codec is HEVC.
In order to change this parameter for CMAF output groups please do the following.
Create CMAF Output Group
For video, change codec to HEVC (H.265)
Under MP4 Packaging type, change HEV1 to HVC1
Thanks,
Jeremy

Re: Please tag HEVC with hvc1 not hev1, can't play on any apple devices

Posted on: Nov 11, 2018 10:10 PM

I'm getting a validation error when trying to create an output preset.
Error creating preset
: Should match exactly one schema defined in 'oneOf'
Just to be clear, in terms of framing the problem correctly, I'm just trying to get a video (file, not stream) transcoded by mediaconvert to play natively on an apple device using H265. Zero other prerequisites.
I'm not trying to change the codec ID, i'm trying to get a h265 video transcoded on mediaconvert that can play on 84 million smartphones. I'm on week two with no success.

Re: Please tag HEVC with hvc1 not hev1, can't play on any apple devices

Posted on: Nov 11, 2018 10:37 PM

Maybe i'm confused about what CMAF is. I got the preset to save by removing the audio output, but now the job is failing with 'DASH muxer only works with dash_group_settings - media target [1].'
OK I just googled, now i understand why there is no audio. Should I be using CMAF? It sounds like it's the smarter option? I need to do some more research obviously..
Here's what i'm trying to accomplish.
Context: mobile only, iOS only
Customer uploads a high resolution source video.
Outputs i would like.
HEVC High Resolution MP4 file ❌ - For consumer to be able to download to device.
AVC HLS VOD ✅ - For on demand viewing of content on application (id

Hvc1 Codec